On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:48:51 GMT, "Martian Welk" wrote:

>Newman
>thanks for the $300 free look :-)

No problemo, so to speak...;-)

>i always hate the Bowing the wide view lenses do
>even if i have to run back an extra block or so for my shot
>them pics show me what i can expect with that lens

I like the bowing - it is kinder to people near
the edges than it would be for the same angle of view
without it, and with panning and tilting, there is less
"wild-perspective-shift"...

>is there bowing still in the pic when you zoom through it ?

It decreases with zooming, but is still slightly there
zoomed fairly long - not bad, though...;-)

>or any out of focus areas ?

???

>say for example you have finished your extreme wide shot
>the lens is still on the front of the cam
>and you zoom up to what would be a Normal wide for that cam
>is there any distortion left then ?

Yes, but less.

>also what happens on a PAN
>does the distortion distort so to speak

Actually, pans and tilts are smoother-looking with
the curvature - otherwise straight lines "swing" in
angle with the camera movement. It turns out we see
in spherical (curved) perspective, with the same
advantages for tilting and swinging point of view and
kinder showing of rounded objects (more on my
web page, under "I babble", "On Seeing and Perspective").

>is there places in the lens where basically the glass itself is crappy

Depends on the WA converter - most are soft in the
corners at the short end, especially at wide stops, some
are soft at the longest setting, and some won't zoom
much before losing focus ability. The WD-58 isn't very wide,
but it is sharp (with slight corner loss at wide stops
at wide end only).

>the reason i want a Wide view is to falsly make small places look bigger
>(real estate)

A "fisheye" (barrel distortion) won't do this - as a
result of the curvature, it maintains a more "normal"
near-to-far proportion relationship than a
"rectangular-perspective" lens, even while covering
a VERY wide angle of view (another advantage...).
You would need a "distortionless" lens with less
than .7X for this (Sony ES06 for Mavica combined with
pincushion "lens distortion" filter in Premiere (after
reducing image magnification using motion-tool to
reduce cropping) can do it (I just tried it) - but the
result is soft and needs at least a bit of sharpening,
especially around the edges).

>and to be closer to a subject handheld , reducing visual cam moves
>and for effects Purposefull slight fish eye

Works well, and gets the on-camera mic close, too...

>"Neuman - Ruether" wrote in message
>news:3a8d5a90.13932355@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...
>> I have made some minor changes and some additions to the
>> Sony VX-2000 review on my web page (look for the VX-2000
>> link within the camcorder-comparison reviews, at:
>> www.David-Ruether-Photography.com/camcorder-comparison.htm
>> Now also included are some frame-grabs using the Canon
>> WD-58 WA lens converter - and some samples using the
>> still-photo feature (with comments that some may find
>> surprising, given some of my rants in these NGs against
>> this feature being on video cameras...;-).