On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:18:32 -0000, "news.freeserve.net"
>> No - raising the levels in post does not produce motor
>> noise. The levels are unusually low, I suspect to permit
>> relatively higher peaks without AGC pumping... It does make
>> for more work in post, though, to raise the average levels
>> without clipping the peaks...
>I agree, levels are unusually low, just enough so the internal mic does not
>pick up motor noise. My opinion is that Sony have set this deliberatley low
>for this reason. AGC has always worked for me on other cameras, I would
>rather accept the effects of AGC than have to manually adjust every rise and
>fall within Premiere...My editing work load is high enough allready.
As I said, motor noise is not more evident ('cept
mebbe under the worst conditions, like recording
in a small, hard-surfaced room...;-) with the
level raised, so this seems to be an unlikely
reason for its low level... BTW, Sound Forge 5
appears to have a module that will raise average
levels without clipping the peaks (by lowering
them, relatively, I would guess...;-). Currently
$99 on upgrade from SF-XP or SF...
>> I find mine overloads the AGC - I prefer a pad between it
>> and the input to get levels more like the built-in mic when
>> using AGC - otherwise the sound is pretty compressed...
>Pad? - Can you explain what this is?
A "level-reducer" - but then you would be back
with relatively uncompressed sound, at lower
level...
>> I normally use two mics, connected through a
>> dual-mono-to-stereo gizmo - which can also be used with
>> one mic if you add a "Y" to double the mono mic output...
>I think I have mistakenly understood that a mono plug would bridge the 2
>stereo channels inside the VX2000 mic socket. This was thinking that L&R
>were on the barrel of the plug. If L or R is on the tip of the plug this
>theory will not work. The MKE300 came with a mono socket to stereo plug
>adapter lead. I will test this out and see if I get both channels on
>firewire dubs. Still strange why you get sound to both channels on phono
>outputs or headphones?
Yes - I have not checked this...
>> Maybe we hear the same thing, and call it different things,
>> but I hear no motor noise, but do sometimes hear low-level
>> hum when using the MKE-300s. I remove it in post with
>> Cool Edit noise-reduction (www.syntrillium.com). The Sony
>> ECM-Z157 short-shotguns sound better (not set "tele"...),
>> and have less noise problem, but they are no longer made,
>> alas...
>It is low level hum that I hear also. When I take the mic off the camera
>mount and situate it away from the camera, the hum disapears. If you carry
>out tests with and without a tape loaded in the camera (with the external
>MKE300 mic connected), this also confirms that the hum is only present when
>a tape is loaded and an external mic such as the MKE300 mounted on the
>camera.
Interesting - most Mini-DV motor noise is high-frequency,
due to the high rpm of the heads drum (it sounded to me
like hum...), but it also appeared intermittant with the
VX-2000 (as in, "with and without a tape loaded"...;-) - I
will check it further...
Thanks.