On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:00:34 -0800, Valerie S. wrote:

>In article <3C67603F.908@mindspring.com>, dbakker@mindspring.com says...
>
>> http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/bokeh.html

>Wow. Great link. Thanks Dirk. I was kind of suprised you guys were able
>to figure out what I was describing.
>Valerie

It should not be assumed that a lens with "bad bokeh" is
worse than one with good, and the other way around...;-)
BTW, see the "sun-plant" photos at:
www.David-Ruether-Photography.com/sunplant1.html - I use the effect
you describe, and one rarely used, the appearance of subject
shadows in the out-of-focus light spots (in stills), but
"bad bokeh" is necessary to make some of these images...