In article , nms@inamess.best.com says...

>In article <4u2aeh$95n@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, d_ruether@hotmail.com (Bob
>Neuman) wrote:
>> Ummm, this is comparing apples and oranges (like another post in the
>> distant past [though this one is not so bad] that left the impression
>> that the user prefered Leica optics to Nikon, but it turned out he was
>> using a Tamron zoom on the Nikon, and a very expensive aspheric 35mm f1.4 >> on the Leica - no contest!) To be valid, compare the truly excellent
>> Nikkor 28mm f2.8 AIS and 35mm f2 AIS MF prime lenses (not a zoom - good
>> as they can be, zooms are rarely in all ways the equal of primes) to the >> Contax equivalents [......]

>Hey, not this again! YOU inferred that I was comparing a Tamron zoom to
>the Leica, when in fact I was not. I do have Nikon lenses also, and those
>are the lenses to which I was also referring. I listed my camera eqpt,
>then referred to the whole thing collectively as "my Nikon", which did
>include a Tamron 20-40 zoom, but also many other Nikon lenses. And I was
>really only referring to a specific situation: low-light photography, in
>which the Leica lens seemed to have noticeably better flare control than
>the Nikon 35-70/2.8, and the Tamron 20-40, resulting in pictures that were
>quite noticeably contrastier than those shot with the NIKON!!!! (and
>Tamron...)

Hmmm, it STILL sounds to me like you are comparing "Nikkor" *zooms*
(the 35-70 [which is a Nikkor zoom] AND the Tamron 20-40 [which is not])
to a Leitz *prime* 35mm [and a special aspheric, at that]) - apples,
oranges, and grapefruit all over the place! ;-) Again, no contest!
(And probably no contest comparing the 35mm f1.4 Nikkor against the
Tamron zoom, or the Nikkor 35-70mm f2.8 at wider apertures, either....)
My point for both the original poster and NS above is that comparisons
of lens/camera manufacturers' products as groups cannot be made if the judgement is based on a comparison of good primes of one manufacturer
against zooms (especially if not even made by the other manufacturer!;-)
of the other manufacturer - some equality of type (and consistency in manufacturer ;-) is needed for begining to make a valid comparison.
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