>"Neuman - Ruether" <d_ruether@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet

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>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:11:57 +0100, "Maxx Taxx"

>> <matsqq@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

>> >I would like a camcorder that is small, has analogue input and OK

>quality.

>> >It seems most camcorder has a digital still image functionality, however

>I

>> >find this feature completely useless if I can't take pictures in at least

>> >800*600, hopefully something like 1000*800 or more.

>> >I have been looking at Panasonic NV-GS5 and Sony PC101.

>> >The Panasonic would be my choice because of the lower price (about 1000

>> >euro/dollars here in Sweden) however I find the 640*480 still images

>> >idiotic, why waste USB connection, SD memory card and adapter on

>something I

>> >will never use.  And the Sony is a bit expensive (1300 dollars).

>> >The problem is there are very few reviews on Canon's camorders, the few

>I've

>> >seen has been rather depressing as a matter of fact.

>> >Is there any model you would recommend that has the small size, quality

>> >pictures/sound, nice ergonomic approach, analogue input and either no

>still

>> >images and lower price, or 1000*800 stills and are something like 1000

>> >dollars/euros ?

>> >If you have any URL reviews that would be even better ...

 

>> I agree with alex - but for web use, limiting the image size

>> to the native video resolution, the images can be useful

>> (but not for printing) - larger, and they are too noisy...

>>   David Ruether

 

On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:38:18 +0100, "Maxx Taxx" <matsqq@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

>OK guys !

>But what camcorder would you buy :

>Sony PC-120  - 1500 dollars

>Panasonic NV-GS5 (american model something like PV-DC252 but with analogue

>input)  - 1000 dollars

>Canon MV500i (like american model with firewire card) - 700 dollars

>I mean if you disregard the features and look at the quality of the picture

>when filming motion (not stills) - do you think the Sony is so much better I

>will notice the difference, I heard it's compareable to 3 chip cameras.

>The Panasonic is better than average for it's price and the Canon uses a

>540.000 pixel ccd (340.000 effective).

>Do you think the Sony is overkill ? Is it better to save the money ?

>Another model I considered was Canon DM-MV5i (american name Elura 40 MC) for

>1100 dollars

>But I heard some  people think there is motor noise and the buyers were not

>as pleased as with the other two cameras (only like 83 % please whereas the

>same figures for pnasonic was 93% and Sony was 98%)

 

Among Sony imaging types, the pixel-count and CCD-count

do affect the image quality. See:

www.David-Ruether-Photography.com/camcorder--comparison.htm (be

sure to read the text - frame-grabs do not show motion-

video effects, which can be annoying). For casual shooting,

I often recommend lower-pixel-count cameras, since along

with their softer, less color-saturated pictures, there are

often fewer annoying motion-artifacts. Best, though, is good

3-CCD - this generally minimizes artifacting while providing

better tonality, color, and resolution. Short this, I would

look for the best balance of image/sound characteristics

in a 1-chipper, as it appears you have been trying to do.

As a good compromise, I tend now to like the mid-line

Sony TRV25/7-PC101 in Mini-DV or the TRV740 D8.

Not perfect, but purdy-gud...;-)