"MailToHere WillBeIgnored" <spamhole@nycap.rr.com>

wrote in message news:7ST2c.1$Fh4.0@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

> According to  <jake59@yahoo.com>:


> >  Do you personally own (a TRV460)?? If so could you tell me what your

> > impression of it is and in particular how it does in low light/no

> > light situations. I have heard conflicting accounts of the degree of

> > graininess with this camera in low light conditions.


> I just bought it 2 days ago, and like it.  However, it's my

> first camcorder, and so I'm a poor judge.  The big feature

> change is that most of the buttons have been replaced by a

> touch screen.  You now have optional control of exposure and

> maybe focus.  (A reviewer of the 350 (IIRC) had complained

> about the lack of this.)  There may be more new bells and

> whistles.


I hate touch-screen controls...


> It can shoot in light so low that I can hardly see.  I.e., I

> can see the objects' images on the LCD panel more easily than

> I can see the objects.


I doubt that you will get a very good image in even fairly

low light - the color will be weak, and the "grain" strong...


> To answer another post, I wanted a macro lens to magnify small

> printing for someone who can't see well.  The goal was that

> 3/4" would fill the height of the screen.  However, the 460

> appears to be a little better than the 350, and it meets this

> spec.


See my other (earlier) post! 'Splains all for macro with these,

which can be very good! You need a simple close-up lens

or achromat (about $65 total with appropriate adapter rings

for the better ones).


> I don't understand how the zoom lens works.  To get the max

> magnification, the object has to be either under 1" from the

> lens, or about 1' away.  1' is a little better than 1".  If

> it's in between, or farther, I can't magnify it as much.


These lenses are focused by shifting the CCD relative to a fixed

lens, so closest focus  is at the "wide-angle" (it isn't very wide...)

end of the zoom range - but with the close-up attachment, the

highest magnification will occur at the longest focal length

(with VERY little focus range - select the zoom to fit the desired

magnification [zoom, then move the camera to bring the image into

focus when doing macro with the close-up attachment - and if you

don't like the magnification that results, zoom differently and try



> Sony also sells zoom lenses now.  Dunno if they'd magnify

> close objects more.



These are unlikely to fit (or to work for what you want), and

are likely VERY expensive.


> I bought it at Sears for $360+tax.  That beats most Internet

> stores.


Sounds like a good deal!


 David Ruether