>Neuman - Ruether wrote:

>> On 3 Apr 2003 02:58:54 -0800, tan_han_wee@hotmail.com

>> (rocketboy) wrote:

>>>Does anyone owned the Canon XL1s Camcorder? Just want to check if

>>>it is a good camcorder. Pretty expensive - need to do research first. Thanks!

>> Many of us consider it the "bottom of the heap"

>> among current 3-CCD Mini-DV/DVCam camcorders.

>> Look instead at the Sony VX2000 (best buy),

>> PD150, TRV950, PDX10 (if into 16:9), Panasonic

>> DVX100, Canon GL2, JVC 300; in shoulder-mounts:

>> JVC 500/etc., Panasonic 200, Sony 300/etc.

>> (a well-equipped XL-1s can cost about as much

>> as a better JVC500, BTW...). I'm not sure why

>> people start their search with the worst, but

>> I suspect it is due to the good quality of the

>> "image" of the product as created by advertising

>> more than the quality of the images it can

>> shoot...;-) ALL of the above camcorders above

>> produce better images, and do it more easily

>> than with the XL-1 - and given the several

>> XL-1 shortcomings, the base price is only

>> the beginning, not the final price, of a

>> decent working camera (with still-inferior

>> image-quality...).

>> David Ruether

On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 21:20:48 GMT, "Mark A. Smith" <MrkyAmrky@netscape.net> wrote:

>He will trash Canon at any chance he gets, don't take this as gospel. He

>is alone with his "many of us" statement.

Then you have obviously not read many of my posts

(or even the one above[!!] that you responded to,

where I recommend the Canon GL2), and you have not

read many of the responses by others to similar

threads on r.v.production... And you have not

actually read my XL-1 review at:

www.David-Ruether-Photography.com/camcorder-comparison.htm.

But, this is typical for the few "Canon-nuts"

on these NGs - they counter any criticism of

their "fav" with opinion and personal attack rather

than presenting real observations about the gear

(with some evidence) - unlike owners of ANY other

brand gear...! ;-) Truth is not their aim;

unquestioning adoration for "their" favorite

camera is... This is not the stuff of good

reporting, though...