"someone" <mike@xyz.com> wrote in message

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(I'm going to pretend that I'm fully awake while responding, but

I may not succeed - which has been a problem lately...)

 

> You cannot get good sound by recording from the back of the room.

 

This is literally true, but a short shotgun mic and some sound processing

afterwards can get acceptable (as in, "intelligible") sound in the situation

described - remember that the picture is unlikely to be first-rate either,

so spending far more on the sound gear than the camera may not make

sense...

 

> Wireless microphone system that are likely to work cost in the neighborhood

> of $400 and up.

 

The $150 Azden WMS-Pro set offers acceptable performance for

a heck of a lot less...

 

> The run from the front of the room to the back is too long to avoid noise

> with a setup that does not use balanced audio connections.  Your camera will

> not accept input from a balanced microphone without an adapter.  XLR

> adapters cost around $100 and up.

 

Simple XLR adapters are far cheaper; runs of 50' with single-ended

lines (what the camcorder uses) can work fine if the wire is good; I don't

recommend method this due to the danger of tripping over the wire.

Standard gear for classroom shooting here: a wireless mic on the speaker

on one channel; a short shotgun on the other channel; a $5 Radio

Shack dual-mono-to-stereo mini-plug adapter to get into the camera;

AGC used; adjust levels and mix the channels while making dubs. The

Sennheiser MKE-300 is an acceptable short-shotgun, and it is around

$175...

 

> A lavaliere microphone that can be unobtrusively attached to her blouse will

> cost somewhere around $150 up.

 

Ummm, acceptable ones are as cheap as $15 (one comes with the

Azden set...).

 

> Figure $250 for the microphone and adapter and another $60-$100 for the

> balanced cable required to run from the front to the rear of the classroom.

 

Too much gear for the job, unless fully professional results are expected - but

then the camera should be replaced, also...

 

> All of a sudden, the cost of a wireless microphone isn't too bad in

> comparison.  A good wireless microphone setup that will also connect to your

> camera can be had from Sennheiser.  The bodypack transmitter and receiver

> along with the lav microphone should be just under $400 if you shop around.

> It is what I use in my video business.

 

The Senn. Evolution 100 appears to be good, but I can't find it

for under $500...

 

> There are less expensive wireless microphones available and they may or may

> not work well in this situation.  Make certain you select a wireless

> microphone that uses the UHF bands, not the VHF bands (far less noise).

> Make certain you can return the kit if it suffers poor performance.

 

That last line is always good advice with video/audio gear...

--

 David Ruether

 d_ruether@hotmail.com

 http://www.David-Ruether-Photography.com

 

> "MarkW" <markwco(removenospam)@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> > I own a ZR-70MC and my fiance will be teaching classes shortly and I

> > have offered to videotape them for her.  I want a good microphone that

> > will pick up her voice well (as well as students) from the back of the

> > classroom which is probably about 25-30 feet back.

> >

> > I know Canon makes a microphone that fits on top of the camcorder

> > itself. Would this microphone pick up well from the front of the

> > classroom or would I want a plug in microphone that she can have at

> > the front of the classroom?

> >

> > As well, I know there are a variety of microphones available if I get

> > an external plug in mic but I know very little about them.  I'd need a

> > long cord (to go around the side of the classroom to avoid a tripping

> > hazard) but if cordless mics are good (good quality as well as a long

> > life battery) I would prefer cordless mics. As well, I'd like

> > somethign that is a clipon that could go on her shirt so she doesn't

> > have to hold a mic.  I'm willing to pay in the $50-$125 range for

> > this.