"OldguyTeck"
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"David Ruether" <rpn1@no-junk.cornell.edu> wrote in message
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> > > "Jerome Delaney" <jerry-oila@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
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> > You once again are twisting the debate.
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> >
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> > We are rejecting the INSTITUTIONALIZATION of homosexual marriage, not
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> > suggesting that homosexuals not be tolerated.
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> >
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> > You perverts are free to act out your sick fantasies in private--what
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you do
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> > to each other in your homes does not concern me. When you demand that
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> > society undergo drastic and dangerous changes to accommodate you,
that
> is
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> > where I draw the line.
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> Ah, so it is OK to "love the sinner, but hate the sin", huh?
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> CRAP! People are what they are. Do ask yourself if homosexual
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> people exist. If you say "no", then you should get out more, and
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> meet people who are not just "your own kind"...;-) If you say
"yes",
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> how can you then justify on the basis of mere beliefs (rather than
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> with truth/facts, and not your obvious prejudices...) advocating the
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> limiting of basic human and legal rights (which you have done...) of
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> those people who are homosexual? Ah, you say homosexuality is
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> not inherent, but is just a "bad choice", and therefore to be
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> condemned (or hidden...) from the moral majority? Did you ever
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> ask yourself why anyone would choose to be homosexual, with
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> the obvious disadvantages of this choice being so evident (the
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> need to hide, the lack of legal rights associated with marriage, etc.,
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> or even the silly hoopla that might surround being honest about
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> yourself and also wishing to serve as a bishop) - and suffer the
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> abuse of such as you? And, BTW, why do you assume that
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> non-homosexual people do not engage in exactly the same sexual
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> practices that you find so abhorent - or that all homosexuals do
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> engage in those same practices? You assume FAR too much in
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> your writings, with FAR too little real knowledge displayed about
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> homosexuality. You would condemn people as a group for their
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> inherent characteristics - which is the definition of bigotry...
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Well then why are they becomming so vitrolic and massing together..
Well,
gosh, it is not very hard to guess! Other groups, like Blacks,
women,
underpaid-workers, etc. have done the same. How long
do you
think it takes to gain basic rights that have been denied
if one
just hides and remains quiet...?!
>Yet
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still putting on quite a show for us when it comes to say a public parrade,
> or
they parrade down the street eg. 2 guys rubbing visibly each other
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buttocks... Ya get my drift...?
Uh, yes
I do... It is OK if you are non-homosexual couples to do this,
though?
;-) Some things are/are-not normally appropriate behavior in
public
for either heterosexual or homosexual people - but sometimes
a point
needs to be made...
>I
see it.. I don't particularly like it.. I
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mean the younger folks see it as well... Not a very nice thing to behold...
> I
think it's shameless...
So is
prejudice - and so is speaking/acting on it without learning
more
about what you denounce...
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Again I actully cannot drive myselfe to 'dislike or hate' these people.. But
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why should I have to tolerate that type of behavior..?
Looking
the other way works for me, whether those doing it
are gay
or straight... ;-)
> I
thank God my kiddos all turned out ok..
Thank
god (who ever that is...;-) that your kids were not
homosexual
- and so escaped your prejudices and the
resulting
conflicts. One hopes, though, that they did not learn
your
prejudices (or were bright/wise/caring enough to
take
the time and effort to unlearn them...). BTW, I grew up
in a
small rural northern-US town (as in "lily white"), and
fortunately
realized early on that *I* had a problem with
Blacks
and my prejudices about them. It took me a long
time to
work through my irrational feelings (and I still suffer
bits-o'-nonsense
feelings occasionally), but it was/is a
VERY
necessary effort, given what I knew...
Now,
image one of your kids is Black (assuming you
are
not...;-). I trust he/she would receive the same treatment
and
love as the others. Now, imagine one of your kids
is
homosexual - and also turned out OK...
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Ed........................(Oldguyteck)
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David Ruether
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