"Jeremy" <jeremy@no-spam-thanks.com> wrote in message news:Dq21b.6346$B8.5132@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

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> "Ric" <riccardo@smile.org> wrote in message

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> > Maybe the Episcopal Church have simply opened their eyes and decided to

> > acknowledge what already exists. Robinson surely isn't the first gay

> bishop,

> > just the first openly gay bishop. Should churches of all demoninations

> root

> > out all suspected gay clergy? What about organists? Be prepared to sing

> a

> > cappella because there sure are a lot of them.

> No, you don't go on a witch hunt. But you DON'T INSTITUTIONALIZE IT,

> EITHER!

>

> The vocal homosexuals want to have their perverted activities declared to be

> "normal" and this is what must be opposed. They are not normal, they have

> never been considered normal, and this notion that they should be able to

> marry and raise children is absurd.

Perhaps you are unaware that the American Psychiatric Association

long ago stopped classifying homosexuality as abnormal? Perhaps you

are unaware that homosexuality occurs "naturally" in about all mammals

in significant percentages? Perhaps you are unaware that those who most

vociferously rant against homosexuality are often "in hiding" themselves...?

(It has been "fun" over the years seeing how many right-wing religious

leaders [and a Supreme Court nominee or two...;-], who rant about "sins"

on Sunday, get caught having sex in public johns during the week.)

Hypocracy is the sin, and truth avoids the need to hide...

> If they want property rights or visitation rights, that can be handled in

> other ways. But not marriage. Marriage is a unique institution, afforded

> with unique benefits, and it has ALWAYS been between a man and a woman.

But not always freely permitted. Remember the fate of slaves, even

in our own country. Denying the right of mariage is one way to "keep

people in their places"...

> The impact upon society, if homosexual unions were raised on a par with

> marriage, would be devastating.

And this would be why...? ;-) "'Cuz then everyone would do it, and

where would children come from?" (This absurd reason is commonly given,

but it reveals more about the claimant than about actual consequences...).

Oh, BTW, in my county and city we have gay anti-discrimination laws, and

do respect gay marriages, though they do not yet have legal sanction - and

nothing "devastating" that the ignorant ranted about before these laws were

passed has come to pass... Our community is a good, very prosperous

one - possibly because it is so accepting of people who are "different".

>And, please, don'r ask me to submit

> "scientific proof" as a condidion of barring homosexual marriage--that

> argument presumes that anyone can have anything, absent "scientific proof"

> being provided by the opposition. Let's use common sense.

Yes, let's... Suppose you had black hair, and there was a superstition

(derived from religion and social custom) about the evil nature of

those with black hair that prevented you from having reasonable job

security, expectations of safety, and freedom from being summarily

ejected from your housing for no reason other than your hair color.

More: you could not enter some vocations, could not legally join

in marriage with anyone else "of your kind", and could not exercise

the basic rights of inheritance, etc. from your "partner" of perhaps

several decades of a loving relationship. Stupid, huh? So you say,

"Well, I would dye my hair another color!" - but this is easy;

sexuality is inherent, and cannot be changed (in/for the honest...;-).

> They're disordered perverts, NOT respectable pillars of society.

You just might be surprised how many well-known, wonderful, and

respected "pillars of society" are in fact homosexual - but irrational

hatred such as yours makes it uncomfortable for many to be honest

about their sexuality. Would that all such as you honestly questioned

your hateful beliefs before attempting to limit others based on them...;-)

--

David Ruether

d_ruether@hotmail.com

http://www.David-Ruether-Photography.com