"Nate C." <xx@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:LI%Db.166254$M02.2881@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...

 

> I know this question's asked a lot on here, and I think I've read them all,

> but everybody's needs seem quite varied.  Thanks in advance for the help.

> Hopefully I can provide enough info to at least get me into the ballpark.

> Here are my criteria:

>

> - overall priority is clearest picture possible

 

One of better 3-CCD or high-pixel-count 1-CCD camcorders...

 

> - must do well in low light/indoor situations

 

One of better 3-CCD or *possibly* low-pixel-count 1-CCD

camcorder...

 

> - $1000 or less

 

Covers only some 1-CCD units, unless you consider used

gear...

 

> - prefer MiniDV

 

The best (discontinued) D8 models may also serve...

 

> - don't care about still photo abilities

 

Good plan - though some of the better 1 and 3 CCD models produce

good images for web use (none for good large paper prints, though...).

 

> - don't care about special effects

 

Good plan - most, except B&W mode, are useless...

 

> - must have color viewfinder

 

B&W can look sharper - and combined with an LCD panel, can serve...

 

> - prefer horizontal over vertical form factor

 

Try both - I prefer vertical for the small cameras for steadier grip

with less fatigue (it may take a bit of experimenting to find the right

grip...).

 

> - would like good automatic setting adjustments with the option of full

> manual control

 

Good auto is possible, but full manual is rare on 1-CCD models, and

even on good 3-CCD Mini-DV "handycam" models, it is not adequate

(apertures operate in steps only, zoom/focus is servo...).

 

> - good sound is important, stereo if possible

 

All will have "stereo", though most that do not have free-standing mics

will not have much stereo spread. Some have poor sound, and also

pick up the prominent DV drum "whine"...

 

> - transfer to computer via Firewire for burning to DVD later

 

All can do this...

 

> I've been doing a lot of research on my own through the usual channels, and

> here are some models that I've been checking out so far, if anyone cares to

> comment:

>

> Canon Elura50 - Consumer Reports top pick, but they claim Canons aren't that

> reliable, and I'm not sure if I like the vertical form factor and the

> microphone being on top.

 

Top mic placement can be better than front, depending on finger

locations, and if you breath heavily while shooting...;-) I would ignore

CR recommendations, though - in photo/audio/video, I think they are

generally wrong...

 

> Panasonic PV-GS70 - I like the Leica optics and the 3 CCD idea - would

> definitely satisfy my image quality needs, but I've read that this camera is

> pretty bad in low light.

 

And in other ways - watch out for "features" that don't deliver what

they "should". This is a camera few would recommend for image quality...

 

> Sony DCR-TRV70 - looks good but question its low-light shooting ability.

 

Better than the GS70...;-) This camera is likely capable of excellent

image sharpness and color, but it may suffer the motion-artifacting of

the TRV30/50 (I don't know - but the TRV30 picture is excellent in

good light, until the camera is moved...;-).

 

> Many others I won't list in the interest of space.

 

It is hard to recommend specifics, even with the number of preferences

you have given, but I generally recommend the Sony TRV22 for "pleasant"

but not outstanding characteristics (+ or -), the TRV33 for sharper image

with better color and minimal motion-artifacting - but with less low-light

range, and the TRV900 (used only) or VX2000 for better low-light range

and overall image quality than either 1-CCD model...

 

> One thing the woman at National Camera told me is that for the ~$500 models,

> Sonys are better than Canon, but the ~$700-900 models, Canon's better than

> Sony - something about Canon doing a price drop in that range while Sony

> stayed the same.  Can anybody else verify this?

 

No...;-)

 

> Thanks so much,

> Nate

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