>"Neuman - Ruether" <d_ruether@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>news:3e82d41e.32030227@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...

>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:04:45 -0500, "Damian Bradley"

>> <dbradley@kingston.net> wrote:

>> >> If you dumped via 1394, your levels will be determined by your NLE,

>> >> unchangeable on the recorder. If you went analog, -20dBFS is the usual

>> >> setting. I'm not clear on your P.A. setup, though. It sounds like, all

>> >> things being equal, that your playback deck/mix/attenuation was the

>issue.

>> >So if I turn down the master gain on the NLE (premiere) to -20db, record

>> >this onto the DV deck, the analog outputs on said deck should be at the

>> >proper levels for the PA setup. Does this sound right?

>> No. Record proper levels in the NLE, then adjust

>> inputs/outputs at the PA for proper house levels...

>> You can check in Premiere for clipping, but I find it

>> easy to export to whole audio track of a project,

>> spread it over two monitors in a graphically-nice

>> WAV-editor like Cool Edit (www.syntrillium.com),

>> and just look for clipping ("magnifying" the parts

>> that are questionable, BTW, often reveals that only

>> a cycle or two really clip - and this is generally

>> not a problem...). If there is a problem area, I then

>> go back into Premiere and adjust the clipping areas

>> down, using the "rubber-band" audio level-adjusts

>> (rather than lowering the level of the whole clip...).

>> BTW, I do not recommend using "normalize" except to

>> check headroom for a particular clip - if you

>> normalize all tracks, the average levels will vary,

>> and not match.

>> David Ruether

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:40:48 -0500, "Damian Bradley" <dbradley@kingston.net> wrote:

>Thanks for the sound advice :) Okay, so I went through me entire project

>and turned down offending clipping sound bites. Now the problem still

>remains that when I output through DV to my camera, I still get "over" on

>the VU's. I try turning down the master levels in premiere, but I'm pretty

>sure the distortion is still there when I turn up the amp. There are little

>clicks / ticks as it plays through the timeline. I'm staring at the file in

>Cool Edit, and it looks fine with only the odd peak in levels. Any other

>ideas where this distortion can be coming from? Since the file is fine,

>there has to be something going in either premiere or the camera, or

>somewhere between...?

>

>Thanks again,

>Damian Bradley

Are you outputting video-audio through FireWire to

the camcorder, or through the analogue connections?

(It should be the former - and this will preserve the

audio levels of the NLE on the tape; if the latter,

you are likely mis-setting input levels.) If you are

using FireWire, it appears the camera meters are not

correct (assuming the track is really not clipping,

as indicated graphically in Cool Edit). BTW,

partially-rendered audio tracks will result in ticks

at the edges of the rendered areas - and your playback

system may also be introducing audible clipping (I

have mine set up so it clips audibly slightly before

the sound-track actually does...).