> >"CoasterKid" <jobber73@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:c74334e5.0401072239.f89ec28@posting.google.com...

> >

> >> I've read the countless threads mentioning the differences between the

> >> two models. I figured some of you with more experience with these

> >> low-end camcorders might be able to offer specific advice being as

> >> I've read seriously conflicting information.

> >>

> >> In addition to all the standard "family" shots, I will be using the

> >> camera mostly for getting video of amusement park rides and roller

> >> coasters. I would like to use the footage both on the web and for DVD.

> >> Stills mean nothing to me as I actually have a very nice camera for

> >> that.

> >>

> >> I'm looking at the roughly the same price for a TRV22 and an accessory

> >> (wide angle adapter, larger battery, etc.) or the TRV33 alone.

> >>

> >> Flat out - which one will give me better results for my situation?

> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:23:23 GMT, "David Ruether"

> <rpn1@no-junk.cornell.edu> wrote:

> >

> >The TRV33 will give you a bit sharper image with a bit better

> >color, but at the price of somewhat more restricted low-light

> >range. If room interior shooting is not "your thing", you will

> >probably be happier with the TRV33 - it has a very nice

> >picture in good light for most subjects (not rock walls,

> >though, for some reason - I suspect the texture is "seen"

> >as noise by the camera and it gets processed...;-). The

> >TRV22 has a "good-average" pleasant picture, with no

> >outstanding characteristics either good or bad (which

> >can be a "plus"...;-). Both are good cameras...

> > DR

"xyz" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9hsrvvcnu9qq0ob9v4k2gforlg02cs5a5c@4ax.com...

>

> I wonder how the new Sony mini-dv DCR-HC85 with the bigger 1/3.6 inch

> CCD and 2110k pixel gross / 1,080k pixel actual for video compares to

> the TRV22 for low-light? I was thinking about getting the TRV22 but

> the new DCR-HC85 seems to be the best of both worlds (attributes of

> both the TRV-38 and TRV22 in one...even though the LUX rating is

> higher at 7 LUX compared to the TRV22)

I have not tried this camera - but it is interesting (Sony seems to

have reduced the annoying motion-effects in the TRV33 compared

with earlier megapixel+ 1-CCD cameras, so mebbe the HC85

combines better sharpness and color with good motion-characteristics

for a 1-chipper?). Sony is pretty consistent, though, within their

video line with lux ratings, so I expect the new camera to fare

worse in low light than the TRV11/17/18/19/22/PC9 - and it

has the same lux rating as other cameras I've used that are not usable

in low light, like the TRV30, TRV950, etc. BTW, the TRV22/etc.

tend to give a proper exposure in good light, but be a tad

underexposed in low light - not a bad choice, and not hard to correct...

--

David Ruether

d_ruether@hotmail.com

http://www.David-Ruether-Photography.com