On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:51:52 GMT, "nappy" <joseft@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"Neuman - Ruether" <d_ruether@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>news:3ea82d45.23241077@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...

>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:08:38 GMT, "nappy"

>> <joseft@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>> >"Neuman - Ruether" <d_ruether@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> >news:3ea7e853.5588569@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...

>> >> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:56:50 -0700, "Mike Rehmus"

>> >> <mike@no-spam-byvideo.com> wrote:

 

>> >> >The suggested 1 watt won't do much to create sound.  Acoustic

>Suspension

>> >> >speakers required a lot of power to create their sound.  I'd guess you

>> >won't

>> >> >be happy with less than 60-100 watts or so.

>> >> >

>> >> >I use 60 watts on a set of bass-reflex near-field monitors and it is

>more

>> >> >than adequate.  But Acoustic Suspension speakers are about 10%

>efficient

>> >> >IIRC.

>>

>> >> Actually, 1 watt goes much further than most believe,

>> >> assuming it is provided by a stable power amp...;-)

>>

>> >whew.. sure 1 watt is fine.. ok.. until the first transient.

>>

>> Restoring the "conveniently-excised-by-'nappy'" remains

>> of my post does kinda cover this...:

>>

>> "My TV of 10 years ago, with 1 watt/channel, drives

>> a "2 cubic foot" old pair of Genesis 2-way

>> acoustic-suspension speaker nicely, to satisfying

>> levels with DVD movies, with plenty of clean bass

>> (some top and bottom end EQ applied...), with no

>> signs of clipping. Most people (EXCLUDING teen-age

>> boys!) listen to music at levels going up to

>> satisfying, realistic acoustic-music levels without

>> ever approaching 1 watt power use (regardless of

>> what the meters say on the amps), even with inefficient

>> speakers. 1 watt will easily produce about 85db levels

>> in most rooms, with most speakers - and for most

>> people, this is loud. "Earbashing" power requirements

>> are different, though, and can easily require peak

>> power in the hundreds of watts, even with efficient

>> speakers - but this is different from the requirements

>> for near-field monitoring of video tracks, where

>> 1 watt/channel is generally quite sufficient. If

>> you do not believe me, try listening at a good

>> "average" monitoring level in your current

>> monitoring set-up, and measure the voltage across

>> the speaker terminals on peaks. You may be

>> surprised how little power is being used...;-)"

>>

>> BTW, you do have a penchant for deceptive editing of

>> posts when quoting them, permitting you to respond

>> with answers that are obviously inappropriate or

>> already answered.......

 

>blah blah blah.. no I have a disdain for long winded misdirected  hot air.

>Think about it for a minute.. Where the fuck is someone going to buy a 1

>watt amplifier?.. This ain't a science class.  It is the real world.  Your

>post is irrelevant.

 

(Ah, you left in the relevant parts, this time - an

improvement...;-) As I pointed out, my TV (and presumably

many others with built-in amps) has a 1-watt/channel

amp, which successfully drives those "inefficient"

speakers you indicated could not be driven on such small

amps - and does it in a "room" situation, not just

for close-up near-field monitoring... As another pointed

out, computer sound cards also may have low-power amps

on them, and can also successfully drive "home"

speakers used close-up sufficiently well for the purpose

intended (video-editing audio-monitoring). And old, cheap,

used receivers, power-amps, etc. may also be low-powered

by your standards, but quite sufficient (even "overkill")

for monitoring. I also pointed out the exceptions, for

*your* benefit...;-)