USING
ULEAD VIDEOSTUDIO 11+ ("VS-11+"), ADOBE PREMIERE ELEMENTS
4
("PE-4") AND PREMIERE CS3, AND SONY VEGAS PRO 8c
("VP-8") -- WITH COMMENTS ON VEGAS PRO 9 AND VEGAS MOVIE
STUDIO PLATINUM 10 FOR EDITING HDV FOOTAGE (AND AVCHD WITH THE LAST TWO)
--
Due to a bit of misfortune, the particular 60 minute Mini-DV tape
that I first put through my new Canon HD HV20 camcorder (see review HERE) was defective, causing many dropouts. This
tape brand and quality level (Sony EX) had presented no problems with
well over 300 Mini-DV
tapes I had shot, but HDV (MPEG-2) is more sensitive to footage problems, as are some editing
programs. Further, I later discovered with a thorough check of the computer's RAM that one of
the original two 1-gig sticks was
defective. I found it difficult to successfully export a video free
from defects, and here is
the story of my experiences with various editing programs (and what I
learned), given the conditions above (which were
later corrected).
My
editing background
was several years of using Adobe Premiere 4, 5.1, 6, and 6.5 to edit
Mini-DV footage (and the URLs for the streaming versions of some of my
non-commercial SD and HD videos are HERE)
--
--I edited a nine minute HDV video using Ulead's inexpensive and basic
VideoStudio 11+
("VS-11+"), since updated a few times to become Corel
VideoStudio
Pro X3 - see below for the changes. After finishing the edit, I was unable to export the finished edit back to
tape in the HV20 unless the first clip on the timeline was a "real" HDV clip (with audio
and video levels turned to zero to make a silent black leader of the right format), and not
just black of an unspecified format. This was necessary even with the export format
specified as HDV. After export, I noticed that following many points of changed footage
(just after transitions, etc.), there were some quite noticeable two frame image motion
freezes followed by jumps forward to the correct timing locations in the motion
streams. I now think that this was likely caused by a defective RAM
problem that I
later discovered. This happened when "Smart Rendering" was selected (the "SR" feature permits export of the
video with the recompression of only the footage that has been changed, speeding up the
export process and potentially improving image quality by simply
copying and not recompressing most of the
source footage on the timeline). By deselecting "SR", the "freeze and jump" glitches disappeared, but
then VS 11+ recompressed all of the footage. Unfortunately, VS-11+
noticeably softened the footage
exported by it when I did this, some parts more than others (and some parts quite
badly) - and the recompressed image quality was poor compared with that
of Premiere Elements 4, which in turn was noticeably worse compared with
that recompressed by Sony Vegas (when used with the same computer and source
footage). VS-11+ appears to have no track on/off switching, which makes
multi-track editing VERY difficult. If the
editor's needs are very simple and nothing much more complicated than single-track editing is
required, and if there are no hardware issues (BTW, Memtest86
is an excellent RAM checker, and other good programs and utilities can
be used for other hardware tests), and if the source footage is captured
with a good program like HDVSplit and/or the captured
HDV .m2t
files are checked and repaired, if necessary, with Mpeg2repair
(which can find and also correct file problems that HDVSplit misses), then VS-11+ can be a good choice, especially
considering its low price, its "SR" feature (and therefore its relatively fast export
speed), and its ability to use proxy files (lower resolution video
files) for editing HDV with older, slower computers. VS-11+ also has a couple of nice transitions
that are not in Premiere or Vegas. And,
I still use it for authoring red-laser HD DVDs with a standard DVD
writer using AVCHD files converted in Sony Vegas from HDV files
(although the resulting disks require a compatible Blu-ray player for
playback).
I
did grow to strongly dislike
this program's poor user interface (it seemed to fight me at
just about every editing step). Also, its mpeg file conversions for
writing SD DVD disks were inferior to those produced using Premiere
Elements 4 or Vegas, as were its HDV-to-AVCHD file conversions for writing HD
video to cheap standard DVD blanks using inexpensive standard DVD
writers compared with Sony Vegas Pro 8c or Platinum 9.
Corel VideoStudio
Pro X3 has succeeded Ulead VS-11+, described above. VS-PX3 has added simple
overlapping of clips for cross fades, the ability to resize the
interface windows, support
for quad-core CPUs, the ability to handle 24 Mbps AVCHD files
(although not very well, but it does offer the possibility of using low
quality proxy files to smooth preview playback), the
ability to write .flv Flash files in higher
quality, and the ability to directly upload videos from the timeline to YouTube.
(See program screen grabs here.)
--I used the same source material for editing the same video using the slightly more expensive Adobe
Premiere Elements 4 ("PE-4", now replaced with the very
similar Adobe Premiere
Elements 7), a somewhat simplified version of the very expensive Adobe Premiere
CS3 (now CS4), but with a very different interface. This
program (which was used to capture the same HDV footage again) is easier
to use than U-11+ for me, and it has better help
files and
greater versatility, including the ability to use Photoshop image
filters on video footage. It also has a wonderful and "pretty" interface with
clear continuous frame images of footage on the timeline which make it easy to locate
material (the others here have that feature also, but in VS-11+, it must
be found in a menu and turned on, and the images are harder to
"read"), a better preview window than that of VS-11+, and menu on/off track switching (which makes multitrack editing fairly easy,
although single button track switching would have been better, as it is in CS3/4 and
Vegas). PE-4 has a far greater tolerance for HDV source material
and computer imperfections than U-11+ (and also somewhat more for these than
Vegas).
Unfortunately neither PE-4/7 nor CS3/4 offers "Smart Rendering", a
VERY IMPORTANT SHORTCOMING with HDV
rendering - and the resulting recompression of the whole timeline can
make for very long render times and also sometimes noticeably damaged
image quality with HDV. Most of my recompressed output
looked fine (even with difficult material), but it failed to recompress cleanly a few
of the most detailed parts with motion, spoiling my exported video. (If
I were ever to consider using PE-4 again with
HDV, I would try applying a slight amount of blur to potentially troublesome footage to
try to minimize this problem.)
One would hope that Adobe would add the "SR" feature to their
future editing programs. That would make Elements a really fine general-use inexpensive editing program.
But another (related) VERY MAJOR
FLAW with Elements (and
CS3/4) is that
it does not export a streaming file of the edited HDV video for easily
making additional copies of the video later (the original project file
and source material must be saved to do that, and then it must all be
recompressed before export). This is a major disadvantage for using this
program for editing HDV.
Oddly, if HDV footage is captured in PE-4 and then imported into Sony Vegas
and exported
from that program (as .m2t files - with no recompression required
anywhere), it
shows more saturated colors, especially reds and purples, although the
raw PE-4 .mpeg and the Sony .m2t (processed or not) files look the same
on the Sony timeline.
PE-4
includes the ability to write Blu-ray disks directly from the program,
using appropriate hardware and blanks, for playback using appropriate playback
facilities. PE-4 also has the ability to write .flv Flash files in high
quality and to directly upload videos from the timeline to YouTube. PE-4 has recently been updated to version "7", adding many
amateur features (but not yet the essential
"Smart Render" feature that is needed for editing HDV
efficiently).
(See program screen grabs here.)
--I used the same material for editing the same video with Sony Vegas Pro 8 ("VP-8"). Sony
offers various versions of their editing software, described at
links that can be found at www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegassoftware.
My VP-8 has been updated to version 8c (Sony updates for their programs
are offered free as downloads from their web site), which has now been replaced by the mostly similar
Vegas Pro 9d with some added features like five new effects, a new
transition, the ability to work in 32 bit or 64 bit with the same
program, and some other things
of interest to both high end users (like the ability to edit with
4096x4096 pixel stills and with up to 4096x4096
pixel "RED" video material and to add closed captioning) and to casual, low-end users (like
automatic YouTube exporting). VP-9 and Platinum 10 can now also handle 24 Mbps AVCHD files,
important now that some newer camcorders can use that higher data rate
which is more comparable in quality with 25 Mbps HDV (but,
unfortunately, the hardware requirements for working efficiently with 24
Mbps AVCHD material are considerably greater than for working with HDV -
although both of these newer Vegas editing programs appear to reduce
past AVCHD editing problems with smooth previewing).
The new features of VP-9 are
described at Pro-9,
and the new features of Platinum 10 are described at P-10.
The interfaces of all the
versions are nearly identical, as are the basic features, making Vegas
Platinum 10 a bargain at well under $100 (and this program has also
significantly increased the number of available audio and video tracks
available compared with P-9). A comparison of the features of
the various Vegas versions is shown in a chart at www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/compare. Had it not been for the 30 day free trial (also offered by most other editing program makers) and a special deal that brought its price under
$200 from about $550+, I would have been discouraged by VP-8's reputation for learning difficulty and by its high price - but I soon found
that I liked this
program enough to buy it. It seems complex at first, but it is VERY VERSATILE
(and it can be used in a "stripped down" mode - although even then, some
timeline operations,
especially audio level key-framing, are less intuitive than they are with
most other programs). The many effects and
transitions can be
key-framed and adjusted in many ways, using identical and logically
arranged pop-up windows that change to their optimum sizes when one double clicks
on their header bars. One quickly becomes impressed with how
logically and consistently designed all the many options, adjustments,
and controls are in this program, unlike some others. The only exception
for me was that knowing how to key-frame audio levels was not
so obvious as it is
in other programs (mainly as a result of there being so many ways to do it, unlike in other programs).
There are excellent
searchable help files
and online instructional tutorials, accessed by double clicking on icons
on the header bar. For
anyone who thinks this program is not versatile or aimed at professional
users, I
suggest dropping the word "titles" into the help search of the
"Pro" versions - or
under "Options", selecting "Preferences". The
results and their many possible variations can be overwhelming! The
Vegas Pro versions also include unusual options like the ability to edit in 32 bit
color and to record and edit in 24 bit 192 KHz sound - and they even
have four 'scopes built in for checking various video characteristics.
Vegas has some fine transitions not present
in the other editing programs I've seen (and they can be key-framed - so something like a soft edged wipe can rotate and change
its softness and the color of its edge with time, for example). Vegas
Pro is set up for professional
level work in both video and audio, with unlimited tracks - and its interface is excellent
(and that can be customized to your liking - but, oddly, if the "candy-color" Windows XP graphic scheme is
replaced with an older-type custom scheme, as I prefer to do, the bottom control bar
in my timeline turns black). The preview window can be enlarged and
adjusted to be as
large, sharp, and smooth-playing as PE-4's - and a second monitor or TV
can also be used for monitoring. With VP-8c, I easily and successfully cut my
footage and exported a (technically, at least...8^) good file to tape. The
export process preserves the .m2t file, which can be used at
any time in the future to export the edited video with Vegas without needing to preserve the original
project and source material, or to recompress the file (unlike with Premiere), a nice feature.
Scary at one point with the editing of the first video in VP-8 (before
the updates) was the appearance of red frames on the timeline (indicating
defective frames) after I had already edited out defective areas I had seen while
looking at the original (defective) tape footage and while checking captured footage
in VS-11+ and PE-4. These red frames would come and go mysteriously, but
they did not appear as black frames in the export of the first
video (whew!) - but a black and a green frame did appear in the second of three videos I made, as the program help files
(and a Google search) indicated they would, and they did portend
future problems that I had with VP-8 and HDV until I updated to version
8c. Vegas can be used to convert HDV files to AVCHD
files for authoring excellent and cheap red-laser HD DVDs using a
standard DVD writer (although these disks must be played on compatible
Blu-ray players). I prefer using VS-11+ for authoring the disks after
converting the files using Vegas (VS-11+ is inferior for making these
file conversions, but its disk authoring is good, and easier to use).
My basic instruction guide for using Sony editing software is at Editing
HDV Video With Sony Software.
During the editing of my second video, I
discovered an unfortunate characteristic of VP-8. When capturing HDV,
the automatic splitting of clips did not work very well (VP-8 generally
left three bad frames to the left of the split and two to the right, which
needed to be manually removed).
The automatic clip splitting in VP-8 can
be disabled by selecting that
option in the capture window preferences, but then one is left with having to
split clips manually. Using PE-4 for capturing and splitting clips
doesn't work, since the split clips are not "real" unless
recompressed individually and exported (with damage to the image
quality, so one may as well edit in PE-4 if one is going to do this...).
Also, as noted earlier, capturing HDV with PE-4, exporting the whole file into VP-8, splitting it there manually, and exporting the edited
video from VP-8 introduces the problem of increased
color saturation at export. A program called HDVSplit, a free, versatile, well-written, efficient, and easy to use
utility for the
capturing and scene-splitting of HDV footage that WORKS, is
available at http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm.
(I did not need to get a separate driver for the HV20 to use
HDVSplit, and I did not bother with the MPEG-2 viewer add-on, but used
the camcorder's viewing screen instead...) If you don't use
HDVSplit for capturing and splitting HDV and have bad frames at the ends
of clips, get and use Trim_Captured_Clips_v1.0
(posted by "jonask" on the Sony Vegas forum) which
automatically removes bad clip ends on clips split by Vegas. Sony
occasionally offers free updates for their programs to correct various
bugs, and it is worth checking their site to see if you have the latest
version of your Sony software.
Owners of
Vegas can
now download a free upgrade of DVD
Architect to version 5 (which enables authoring Blu-ray disks with a
Blu-ray writer for playback using a Blu-ray player).
(See program screen grabs here.)
In
summation --
If you
know that your
HDV footage is perfect and that you are
not going to do anything fancy, Ulead/Corel VideoStudio
can be OK (and it has some
advantages), but it can cause nasty results you can't easily recover from if the
source footage or your computer has problems - and in some ways its interface is
very unpleasant to
work with if you are used to editing with other programs with better
user interfaces. Adobe Premiere Elements is more reliable, more versatile,
much more
tolerant of source footage and equipment problems, and its interface is wonderful - but it does recompress
all HDV footage on the timeline,
with the very serious disadvantages that that would indicate (but it is a great
program for editing Mini-DV). Premiere Elements 7 appears to offer
little additional of value compared with Elements 4. Premiere CS3/4 is more complex, with an
interface that is not as nice as that of Elements or Vegas, and it is FAR more
expensive - and it also handles HDV poorly. Sony Vegas Platinum and Pro
combine
most of the
advantages of the other programs, have a very
logical interface, and they are more versatile than most other
editing programs - but they are somewhat more difficult to learn, even for basic
editing (but there are the
useful extensive
help files, tutorials, Sony online teaching videos, and my
Sony editing guide
to aid the learner). With the arrival of Sony Vegas Movie
Studio HD Platinum 10 Production Suite (whew, what a mouthful! ;-) at
its give-away price, if the editor is willing to spend the time learning
this program (which is for PCs only), I see little advantage in looking
elsewhere for a good editing program unless there are some few special
needs that this program cannot satisfy. BTW, all of the programs (that
are still current) that are covered here have free downloadable 30-day trial
versions available.
The
comments above are in reference to editing MPEG-2 HDV, with the latest
program updates as of July 2009 installed, using Windows XP, a Biostar MB
with an Intel chipset, a 2.4gHz Intel Core-2-Duo CPU (since
replaced with a 2.83gHz Core-2-Quad, which has quite noticeably improved
preview playback smoothness and render speed [2.17X], and with the newer
Sony editing software, video previewing has improved considerably with
AVCHD), 3 gigs
of 667mHz RAM, two 80 gig
HDs plus one newer 250 gig drive split into three partitions (with no
RAID, but I use three different physical drives when editing), an SB
sound card, an ATI Radeon X1600 Pro video card with 256 megs of RAM (since replaced with a GeForce 9500GT video card with 1 gig of RAM - with
no real improvement in preview performance over the earlier card...),
and an inexpensive 24" 1600x1200 LCD monitor on which all of these editing
programs lay out very well (the screen grabs included here
are at 50% of
the original size). Nothing used here is "bleeding edge" or very expensive, but
this gear
should be more than adequate for use with any of these programs
with HDV.
Frame grabs and URLs for my ExposureRoom videos (in HD and SD in good
quality), and my YouTube videos (in SD in good quality and in low
quality), are
here.
It is now
possible to write very high quality HD Blu-ray disks using all of these
programs using HDV files with Blu-ray writers and (still-expensive) Blu-ray
blanks - and to write very high quality HD AVCHD disks using AVCHD files
with standard DVD writers using standard (cheap) DVD blanks with the
right software used for transcoding files, if needed. Unfortunately,
much recent software and hardware cannot handle very well the maximum AVCHD data rate now available
with some camcorders (24
Mbps rather than the more common 17 Mbps, which is noticeably inferior to 25 Mbps
HDV all else being equal - see a comparison here, with two camcorders
using the same sensors, lenses, and processors, but one is HDV and the other 17 Mbps AVCHD,
at www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-HG10-Camcorder-Review-33146/Performance.htm#).
AVCHD files transcoded from HDV at 16 Mbps using Vegas and authored to
red-laser DVDs looks quite good compared with
the original HDV, unlike HDV transcoded to AVCHD using Ulead's
software). I have had excellent results editing HDV in Vegas,
transcoding it to AVCHD in Vegas, then using Ulead VideoStudio for authoring
red-laser HD disks - but these unfortunately do not play in all Blu-ray players
(but they do appear to play well using recent ones made by Panasonic and Sony).
For an
excellent brief comparison of the many HD formats, go to this Videoguys
web page, here.
So, there you have it...!
FRAME
GRABS FROM MY 1ST VIDEO - USING THE 3 EDITING PROGRAMS --
FRAME GRABS FROM VIDEOS I'VE PRODUCED USING THE CANON HV20
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URLS
FOR MY EXPOSUREROOM AND YOUTUBE VIDEOS --
CANON
HV20-HV30-HV40
REVIEW --
COMMENTS ON
USING THE PRODAD MERCALLI STABILIZER PLUGIN
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SIMULATING
STEREO AUDIO WITH A MONO SOUND TRACK
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COMMENTS ON CONVERTING
MINI-DV TO HDV --
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